Entry 4: RE: "Snow White" - The Unfairest of Them All

Posted by: Bradley Redder

From the brilliant Lord of the Rings

I'm not entirely sure why you posted that video, but thank you for doing so. My guess is you secretly feel guilty about the bullshit you're trying to pull with this Lord of the Rings question, and want to be found out, otherwise you wouldn't have chosen a video that so clearly delineates our roles in its scenario... I read it as I'm the wronged angel who is being set up by a crooked lawyer (you) by using cheap theatrics to shock the jury; everybody knows I'm in the right, but how can you stare at a child accusing molestation and tell him to shut his mouth? In our case, if you're not following, the child and anatomically correct doll represent Lord of the Rings.

I don't understand why you need a frame of reference to talk about this. Have you that little to complain about the actual film that you're willing to spend half of your posts re-iterating a useless question? If we talk about a sci-fi film (like next week!) do I have to tell you how it stacks up to 2001 or Star Wars? Do I have to compare a movie that has sharks to Jaws? It makes no sense, this question you insist on asking. If you say my praise is baseless, that's fine, but poke holes in the actual praise I've sewn... Don't pull out a whole new tapestry. And for what it's worth, I think Snow White owes its existence much more to Tim Burton's demonically overwrought Alice in Wonderland rather than your "precious" Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Maybe your brain cannot wrap itself around my praise because it's already occupied wrapping itself around those circles in which you're busy talking. You're question still makes no sense, and has no relevance, and I stand by my parallel question. You know my feelings on those films, and all you're trying to do is frame the argument in such a way that I cannot have a fair chance at being taken seriously: If I say Snow is better than Rings, you blast me for taking down such a highly praised cinematic achievement, and invoke popular opinion to bury me as a contrarian, yet if I concede that Rings is better than Snow, you take the comment out of context and say that I admit it is a generally inferior film.

Well, I won't give in. We can discuss that trilogy of yours on here in its own week, if you like, but I think you owe it to our legions of fans to actually make a legitimate point on Snow White at some point.

Entry 3: RE: "Snow White" - If it would please the court...

Posted by: Chad Van Alstin

The reason why my question matters, Bradley, is because I don't think Snow White would have ever seen the light of day if not for the Lord of the Rings films. This movie borrows so heavily from the formula set down by Lord of the Rings that it's impossible not to make a comparison; unless you always imagined Snow White battling trolls and sieging castles, army in tow.

Further, Lord of the Rings is the only real frame of reference we have when judging a fantasy film like Snow White. Your questions about the Godfather trilogy and Star Wars trilogy are far, far less relevant, as those are completely different types of movies. Their influence of each other is not obvious.

Basically, I think we need to put your review of Snow White into perspective -- how does this fantasy epic match up to others in the genre? I admit that, since most people with quality taste laud the Lord of the Rings, my asking is a little bit of a dirty tactic. However, I think it's still very relevant to the discussion nonetheless.

Look, there's a lot we can debate about with Snow White, but my brain is still having an incredibly difficult time wrapping itself around your baseless praise. I need a proper frame of reference; I need to understand where you're coming from.

So, is Snow White a better film than Lord of the Rings?

Entry 1: RE: "Snow White" - One Fantasy to Rule Them All

Posted by: Chad Van Alstin

Your praise for this very average film officially makes your film taste unpredictable -- and that isn't a compliment. While I think that there is some value to be had here in terms of the visuals, everything else about this movie really falls flat.

I wouldn't have minded the complete lack of character development  if this movie was just more fun. Sadly, I didn't really enjoy any of the action at all; there's just nothing special about it.

 What we have here is an art film that isn't smartly done, and instead relies entirely on its visual presentation (which  has some serious issues) to sell itself. Snow White is a really weak movie. While I don't necessarily mind an action-packed Snow White re-telling, I think that some care could have been taken to bulk up the characters and setting.

I think it's safe to say that without the success of the Lord of the Rings movies a film like Snow White would never have seen the light of day. Before we continue I want you, Brad Redder, to answer a simple question for me: 

Is Snow White and the Huntsman a better film than the Lord of the Rings trilogy?

Please, try to keep your answer objective. I just think the legions of This Week's Movie fans deserve to hear the answer, before they decide to cease taking you seriously.